Alo and De Happiness #81
(PD) Alo and De Lake on Land.
Copyright ©2018 December 02, 2018
Morning Dove: The idea of happiness has gnawed at me for weeks... the modern words say that the ancients spoke of happiness, but I myself cannot find the emotion of happiness to possibly exist within the scenarios that the ancients wrote of.
Yan: The modern synonyms are, of course, only relative to the modern language... the modern language does not possess words that describe different tones of emotions, and so, there can be no close modern synonym of an ancient word of emotions.
Alo: Also, outsiders cannot feel their own bodies, and so, the outsiders cannot know that different emotions exist. Yan has spoken before of more details, that, the outsiders can only recognize about six to twelve emotions... and, so, if the outsiders cannot see nor feel emotions beyond the most elemental of emotions, then it is understandable why the outsiders only have elemental words for emotions.
Yan: A large tree is like an emotion... a thousand branches, fifty-thousand leaves, each being a different variation of the one emotion... giving the tree one name, cannot communicate each variation of emotion...
Alo: Well said...
Morning Dove: I agree, but if there are no useful modern words for emotions, then how do you decide how to translate the ancient words?
Alo: See the ancient words, discern the underlying concept behind the words, then assemble the words to relate to what we can understand within our modern life, and then recognize how the concept relates to one's own life. The idea of 'studying books gives happiness', the idea is interpreted by our own firsthand experiences... studying old books, is interesting... something new do to... a personal challenge to accomplish a difficult thing... a sense of pleasure exists, because, of the changes of inner tones, but the sense of pleasure is as infinitely variable, and, at least for myself, never approaches close to the sense of happiness. To me, pleasure is as a mild entertainment, whereas happiness can grow to become extreme. Modern words, do not, and cannot, adequately differentiate between pleasure and happiness... makes no difference which modern word we use, the word will be wrong.
Morning Dove: Then, it is like just reading the modern words, while interpreting each word to fit our own lives?
Alo: Yes, close... since modern words cannot possess meaning, then there is no reason for us to be concerned of interpreting modern words within any direction other than what we ourselves prefer. Similar for ancient words.... know first, what is real in Nature... then, if ancient words fit what is real, then good... if ancient words do not fit, then, let them go...
Yan: Sometimes, we speak, while using additional words, to, add to, and communicate what we ourselves are thinking and feeling. Like the tree, we might use words of colors, words of hues, words of intensities, words of quantities, words of directions, words of aromas, words of tones, words of age, and many other words that help direct another person's attention to a single branch. When the person listening assembles the words within their own minds and hearts, the person can then glean a useful idea of what we ourselves are pointing to, as well as what we ourselves are feeling.
Alo: Outsiders are not able to assemble words... outsiders believe that the use of descriptions is a mental problem... outsiders name it 'synesthesia'... and there, that helps to illustrate why outsider words cannot have meaning, because, outsider words were created by outsiders.
Morning Dove: That sounds similar to why the outsiders have for so long exploded angrily when our people speak of little things, like 'spirit of lake'... then, our people's words have always exceeded the outsiders' ability to assemble words?
De: Yes... for us, a 'rule' implies self-standard... the self-created standard that we judge by, and choose by... for us, it is internal, and comes from our own choices... but, for outsiders, all is external... outsiders can only comprehend external rules of laws, laws forced by the outsiders' masters, that also carry, punishments, for not obeying... we, rule ourselves... outsiders cannot understand that...
Jun: Yes, and similar for clothes... De and I, our dresses... expressions of inner, expressed outward... but outsiders, they only think outer... cannot comprehend inner...
Yan: We live in wholly different worlds... only sharing, same planet...
Alo: Many ancient words have partial descriptions included... like, if, I were to tell De, 'yurr purrty' with a varying and retreating tone, then the voice implies the opposite of the words... similarly, some ancient words, when spoken with heart, can be very beautiful and descriptive... no modern word can carry similar descriptions of beauty, nor of emotions...
De: Like, 'ai'... pronounced like 'eye'... means like 'love'... difference of tone, changes word... can then mean 'sorrow'... some ancient words come close, to expressing inner emotions... vary color, vary hue, vary direction... speaks, vaguely, of a similar inner tone...
Morning Dove: Some of that sounds similar to what we normally hear in voices, so, what is the difference aside from added words?
Yan: Outsiders cannot hear and reason voice tones... outsiders can only be conscious of a few things... the word itself becomes more important than the voice. Outsiders vote for politicians, and believe in fake philosophers on stages... proof that outsiders cannot hear voice tones.
Alo: Also proven by the outsiders' global religion... there exists no knowledge, nor thought, within the global religion, of how emotions exist... if the outsiders' highest knowledge does not include the most elemental things of life, then, obviously, the outsiders do not know also.
Morning Dove: Outsiders, not able to assemble words, not able to hear voice tones, not able to be taught knowledge of emotions... then, yes, I guess there could be no other conclusion but that the outsiders' word of 'happiness' cannot possibly relate to the real experience of happiness.
Yan: When ancient words are translated by outsiders, the outsiders always choose words that fit the outsiders' lives... always cruel, always violent, and always of master-slave relationships... and the translations then never make sense... but, when ancient words are translated as having implied kindness, thoughtfulness, and inner goodness, then the words can become very beautiful, and always make sense.
Alo: The tones of ancient words spoken, become beautiful... speak of heart... but, outsiders cannot hear tones, so, outsiders cannot hear beauty.
Morning Dove: Outsiders... only able to see and think of things outside of themselves... even our own little term of 'outsiders' would not be comprehendible to outsiders...
Yan: Perhaps humorous in a way, but likely true...
Alo: Happiness of life going well... happiness of seeing a worthy person find happiness... hold all experiences of happiness in one's hands... multiply infinitely strong and stronger and larger... increase, loudest louds, brightest brights, sharpest sharps, extremest extremes... wide, high, deep, no end... where the happiness reaches beyond the boundaries of the universe, that, there, begins to approach an idea of my own happiness, when holding hands with De...
De: Tears also... so, very happy... pushes limit... nears something, different... better...
Morning Dove: I have seen outsiders say that they were happy because they bought a store trinket... same word, fully different meaning... then, outsiders would not know, nor ever be able to experience similar. Even if we described happiness with all seven primary senses, and all variations of colors and sounds and aromas and textures, still the outsiders would not understand...
Alo: And cannot imagine...