Alo and De Incarnate #101
(PD) Alo and De Lake on Land.
Copyright ©2018 December 26, 2018
Yan: People convince themselves that their imaginations are real facts... their mistakes are obvious, but so are mine...
Alo: Recognize mistake, then, choose different... not always easy...
Yan: Definitely not... I am trying to replace cookies in the cookie jar... fill my heart and mind with good things... not full yet...
Alo: When believe full... then, not full... no boundaries...
Yan: True...
Alo: New thoughts... perhaps, dwell, on new... aim, for better... choose...
Yan: My trouble, is that I no longer have much of any desires beyond where I am already... the desires that do remain, are very weak... faint... nothing I can think of, to add to what I already am...
Alo: Hope... what is hoped?
Yan: My chuckle... again we return to the old man's writings... 'hope person not now... straddle person not walk'... my current walk, is, enough... my walk, is in the now... what else could I hope for?
Alo: The outsiders' hope... another life, perfect... floating in skies... spirit bodies, feeling human emotions...
Yan: Yes... an eternity with Jun, yes... but an eternity with outsiders' ideas of perfection? No...
Alo: Soul?
Yan: Unknown... I have no knowledge of souls, nor even if I have one...
Alo: Yes, it can be a difficult thing... to choose, whether to believe a hope, or, remain unknowing...
De: Some know... some know more...
Alo: Agreed... but, cannot know everyone... maybe... more maybes... all maybes...
Yan: If... but... but here, so many people have talked about another life, it is surely almost universal amongst people... some people say they are born once, then go to a spirit heaven... other people say, they are born many times, and will continue to reincarnate here on earth... some believe that their souls will fly into the stars, and reincarnate in alien beings... and other people say that they want to end their cycle of reincarnating... different beliefs, different hopes, but the people do believe that they have a soul that survives the body...
Alo: Creation, is not flat... Creation... not be flat...
Yan: ... Okay... then, not two-dimensional... not binary... no point A to point B... something in-between... also means that time is not flat... not, point A time, point B time... the now, is, as, forever, somewhere...
Alo: Place an event... inside of void... no time there... would remain timeless... maybe, life now...
Yan: Interesting thought... that idea, would place a person's current heart, permanently in eternity... kind of scary to think of... although, still, an eternity with Jun, could be a good hope...
Alo: What if... eternity in void... is love complete? Full? Enough?
Yan: I see what you are saying... true, I wish for more love, to give to Jun... so, hopefully, my current heart, will not become eternal...
Alo: How make better?
Yan: More time, more life experiences, time enough to grow more love...
Alo: Love, no boundaries... boundaries, beyond lifetime...
Yan: Very true... and if that were possible, then I would hope for countless lifetimes, to continue becoming better for Jun...
Alo: But... each lifetime suffers... growth, needs suffering... must experience hardship, to experience appreciation...
Yan: True, and that would sum to the idea of wanting to reincarnate countless times, knowingly and purposefully accepting hardships, just to attain a better love for another... that kind of hope, is backwards from common beliefs about afterlives... I would not want to escape reincarnation...
Alo: If not know, purpose of soul, then cannot know, best soul choice...
Yan: True...
Alo: What if... soul had previously been in a different species, an intelligent, refined creature, on a different planet? And the soul came here to learn what this life is like? The soul would enter a primitive body... different purpose, different goal... maybe, different species, unable to feel love...
Yan: I see what you are pointing at... if we cannot know where the soul came from, nor where it is going, then, all beliefs are merely imaginations and hope...
Alo: What if, this Reality, is as a virtual reality computer program, that spirit beings enter, to experience what it is like to be a three-dimensional creature? The purpose, could be to learn firsthand what emotions are... when the body dies, the spirit being is then again aware of its real life...
Yan: The possibilities then, are almost endless, and none require a single soul to travel a single path... but then, that would also mean that there could be different souls from different places doing different things for different purposes.
Alo: Correct... one world, many species, maybe many souls... and too, maybe not all creatures have souls... many humans also... some humans, maybe... just, filler... the software's filler, to create a wider variance of experience... like a video game...
Yan: Wow, actually, that almost makes sense... the outsiders claim of themselves to be organic robots... what if they really are? Kind of funny in a way, but also, somewhat unsettling...
Alo: If a man, not experience enter, then not know... if not know, then all fantasy...
Yan: Another contrast there... outsiders say that their minds do not attain consciousness until about eighteen months old... what if that is true? That would appear to further suggest organic robots... not conscious in the womb, no thinking, no observing the body form... quite disturbing to me...
Alo: Some, are conscious... then, later forget... maybe, remember some...
Yan: I have heard some beliefs say that their masters reincarnate conscious... I have never heard of such a person, although, I have heard people make the claim of having done so... their claims, are spoken, third-person, not, first-person... claims are false... the people might actually believe their imaginations to be true, but, their descriptions, cannot be true...
Alo: Also, if always conscious, then always observing... if always observing, then observing emotions... understand emotions forming... understand ingredients... understand words... understand that there cannot possibly be one love, one compassion, one beauty, nor one of any other emotion... the absence of knowing, proves the absence of consciousness...
Yan: Agreed... but my mind remains interested in the void scenario... if, we were to entertain the idea, then, how might it work? To go, where there is no place, where there is no time, no measurement, nothing to sense... how would a soul get there, and how would it be aware of itself?
Alo: ... Only, one known way, to know... but, changing the topic back to before... if not know why heaven be above, then also not know why people believe afterlife... proves, people not conscious... proves, no teaching true... proves, all beliefs, false... proves global religion ignorant... proves, so many things... if not be conscious when enter, then, not can know, anything, except, today's walk...