Alo and De Wuji #96
(PD) Alo and De Lake on Land.
Copyright ©2018 December 24, 2018
Yan: I have been curious... not for a need to learn words, but to answer an unknown... sometimes, we chat about possibilities... we cannot know the Source, nor can we know how Nature exists... at best, we can only see how Nature expresses itself in our own lives... we teach ourselves, by what we sense... but my curiosity, is within the idea of what wuji might be... the immeasurable void... I had seen one reference to wuji in the ancient texts, but the usage did not appear to relate to what most people claim... the writing, instead, merely pointed to a nothing pole, as, in, the sound of an eagle is mutual to the eagle... also, 'up' and 'down' are mutual, and do not exist without the other... but, some things are not mutual, and have no pole of relationship...
Alo: Good topic, lengthy explanations... start, at before learning words... adults told me that words of things are sufficient descriptions of the things themselves... adults place words before real things... adults also told me that math is real and true, and can give a full description of Nature... I did not believe in, nor accept the false claims... I knew that words are not 'mutual' to the things themselves... I knew that math cannot possibly be mutual to Nature... I knew from hearing eagles, that the sounds of eagles can only come from eagles... it is not possible for anyone to reproduce a similar sound... outsiders might not be able to discern the difference between an eagle's voice, and a tape recording of the eagle's voice, but, still, the fact remains, only eagles can emit the sound of eagles... even if someone created an eagle robot, and used eagle vocal cords, still, the sound could not be the same as an eagle's, because, no emotions, or, wrong emotions... outsiders cannot create what they cannot imagine... but, ears hear eagle voice, mind aware of hearing, mind analyzes sound, mind stores memory, mind can then compare real sound to recorded sound, and know the difference... the eagle's voice, can only exist from a real eagle...
Yan: Agreed... the eagle's voice is mutual to the eagle, and nothing else... if, a new sound were heard, that was not mutual to any known source, then we might say that there is a 'nothing pole'... nothing to measure from where the voice arrived.
Alo: Yes, precisely... but, precisely there, is a portion of an explanation of wuji... we hear sounds, feel radiances, smell aromas, see things, taste things... all senses, always active, never stop... Nature's radiances, always exist... always...
De: Some people, have claimed otherwise... said, black holes, no radiance... later proven wrong...
Alo: Yes, excellent example... men, outsiders' topmost superior, believe it to be possible for Nature to not always radiate radiance... but, the men are wrong, must be wrong, simply not possible for Nature to become quiet, and still...
Yan: Agreed... even if we might not be aware of a radiance, it does not mandate that the radiance does not exist. Also, the black hole example, said to be like intense gravity... if the believers can believe that intense gravity has no radiance, then the believers cannot feel gravity on earth... do not know what gravity is...
Alo: Yes, agreed. Further, when I was very young, I did not care at first to give a name to the void, because, I so disliked names, and names have no meaning anyway... but, later, I did choose to give the thing a name, and I named the 'thing' to be 'void'...
Yan: Yes, I have seen some of your early writings... the void appeared to me to be similar to wuji, but maybe different... but now that I have seen the ancient use of wuji, I now suspect that 'void' and 'wuji' are very different...
Alo: Yes, a lot different. Although for a time, in recent years, I had chosen to use the 'wuji' name instead of 'void', I did not know of the difference until seeing how 'wuji' is used in ancient texts... but now, I find no similarities. The 'void' that I wrote of, is, in fact, by every known logic, a void. Again, in this Reality, at all times, never pausing, always a radiance felt... always gravity, always static charges, always broadcasting towers, always satellites, always earth's displacement, always time, always time dilation, always time duration, always energy force direction, always energy force decay ratios, always have curves, always have aromas, always have warmths, always have contrasts that describe the present now, compared to past then... countless things, always radiate, always felt, always able to know from where the radiances came from... the Reality that we live in, always radiates something... no exceptions... not can be an exception in the Nature that we see and sense. But, now... my use of the word 'void', is of a void that is literally void... literally has no felt radiance, literally has no felt time, literally cannot discern past, future, nor even now... there, are no variances... no decay rates... no ratios... no curves... no felt presence of earth... literally nothing able to be sensed, and literally nothing able to be measured... even, if, standing, in the center of the void... can only know, that cannot know... nothing there to know...
De: Written, and described... twenty years now...
Alo: Yes... I now appreciate having written of the void... I now have a record, of describing it... when young...
Yan: Critiquing question... if, cannot know the void, then, how can the knowing be known?
Alo: I had similar questions, for almost twenty years... I doubted myself, over and over I doubted myself... then... answers...
De: Your eyes, and mine, red... difficult to talk, about the void... I value your private writings... there, no flaws, no guesses... full details... could not have imagined twenty years ago...
Alo: So many plausible excuses... but, there... cannot now deny... cannot doubt... but to answer Yan's question... 'wuji' implies 'nothing pole', as in 'nothing ridgepole'... generally, 'wuji' merely implies a person not mentally judging 'high low'... but, further, outsiders already cannot measure radiances... outsiders cannot so much as feel the gravity of a black hole... if wuji were a place that can be imagined in this Reality, then it must have radiances, and the outsiders still would not know... wuji, does not imply a void... but, here, the void, of De's and mine... is truly, as void as void can be reasoned... but, the absence of a thing, can be recognized to exist, when another thing, exists, mutually dependent, and, when another thing no longer exists...